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Here are the results of our Obama on ISIL poll.  Politics Plus Polls are not scientific, because those who respond are not balanced according to demographic categories.   Therefore, we do not accurately reflect the makeup of the US population.  Nevertheless, our polls are often both accurate and indicative of the nation’s view.

And here are your comments:

Showing comments 1–7 of 7.

Posted by Patty  September 18, 2014 at 2:10 am.  

 

It’s a much better plan than the ones the TeapublicanTs are proposing. MccConJob and "I have the vapors" Graham both want full-scale war. The Saudis are really leaning on them for that.

 

Posted by Gwendolyn H. Barry  September 17, 2014 at 5:10 am.  

 

I had forgotten you did these! The U.S. has evolved into a perpetual war machine. The costs of these ugly choices could remedy so much social malfunction. I was Bin Laden who exclaimed that if they wished to bring the U.S. to it’s knees, simply hoist a flag anywhere / i.e. beheadings, attacks, suicide events / and the U.S. "leadership" would react. And it’s true. No longer able to grasp other E.U. nations to follow along, we are now a reactionary govt without full support of U.N. nations. Here at home, social ills bloat and exhaust communities going un-noticed by the larger audience because the MSM is simply a tool for the MIC and corp purchasing agenda. The truth is buried in indy, alternative media that struggles to expose the corruption that our govt has become disabled in. imo. respectfully, Tom. Good to see you!

 

Posted by Edie  September 16, 2014 at 5:38 pm.  

 

I think this is all he can do right now. Few Americans would support another full blown war right now, with the exception of McCain, Graham, and Cheney. The Arab world needs to step up and show some accountability for their region, maybe this plan will force them to do it.

 

Posted by mamabear  September 16, 2014 at 5:09 pm.  

 

A good plan. Getting everyone to work together is a sign of of great leadership and one that most would not even have guts to try. Yes a hard choice but it a wise one.

 

Posted by Yvonne White  September 16, 2014 at 10:25 am.  

 

There was an answer lacking: Ineffective. I don’t think Anything will change if the people at risk don’t or can’t help themselves.

The people of Iraq didn’t overthrow Sadam, and when WE did it "for them", well, we see how that works (or NOT)..:(

 

Posted by gene jacobson  September 16, 2014 at 5:57 am.  

 

I don’t like any of what is happening there and believe the nations of that region should be the ones standing up and demanding an end to the outlaw bands terrorizing the people. Given that they are not, that they prefer things the way they are that they might maintain the dispute between Shia and Sunni Islam, what the President is doing and proposing is probably the best we can do, no one in this country with sense (which excludes the Dick Cheneys of the country) is willing to go beyond this plan.

 

Posted by Joanne D  September 16, 2014 at 5:00 am.  

 

Since he is getting so much criticism from all sides, it has to be at least good. Universal criticism generally only goes to perfection, but I can’t bring myself to say it is perfect. I have concerns, not the least of which is stimulated by Jon Soltz of Vote Vets, who fears we may be throwing interpreters who have worked faithfully for us under the bus.

I was split on this one.  The idealist in me wanted to vote Disastrous or Poorly conceived, because I wonder if it can possibly be effective and I worry about the slippery slope.  But the realist in me won out.  For Obama to do nothing would be political suicide for the Democratic Party, and a Republican takeover here would be far more devastating than the worst imaginable effects of his plan, the best available.

Although she has been a daily participant here for many months, this is Joanne’s very first Big Mouth Award.  A denizen of Care2, she came to us from there.  She’s super-smart, witty a political junky and an activist for all kinds of human rights.  I have no doubt that many more such awards shall follow.  I have had occasion to correspond with her, and she faces some major issues in her life with exceptional dignity and grace. 

If I had to make one criticism, I would say she needs to express more concern for voter turnout. 😉

Please join in burying her in the praise and kudos she deserves.  This place is better, because she is here.

Here are the results of our Police Murder Poll.  Politics Plus Polls are not scientific, because those who respond are not balanced according to demographic categories.   Therefore, we do not accurately reflect the makeup of the US population.  Nevertheless, our polls are often both accurate and indicative of the nation’s view.

And here are your comments:

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Posted by Rixar13  August 28, 2014 at 1:23 pm.  

 

I hope so but, we shall see.

 

Posted by Edie  August 27, 2014 at 5:09 pm.  

 

Based on what I have seen about Ferguson, they will never find a jury to convict a white cop for killing a black man.

 

Posted by Jim Phillips  August 27, 2014 at 4:33 pm.  

 

Remember the subway shooting in Oakland, CA of Oscar Grant? Former transit cop convicted in California subway shooting. Yes, Darren Wilson will do prison time for either murder, manslaughter or violating Brown’s civil rights.

 

Posted by Lynn Squance  August 26, 2014 at 1:16 pm.  

 

Well isn`t it interesting that Wilson was part of a police force known for racism, so much so that the entire force was fired. That in his rookie year when he would normally be so “impressionable“. No wonder he found another home in Ferguson. The plot thickens.

 

Posted by Alex P.  August 22, 2014 at 8:36 am.  

 

In a fair and just world, of course he would. However… in THIS one, the answer is almost certainly "Haha, no. Of course he won’t."

 

Posted by mamabear  August 21, 2014 at 2:52 am.  

 

He will not even stand up in court and tell how he murdered a man because he was not white. Justice is a joke sometimes.

 

Posted by Patty  August 20, 2014 at 6:12 am.  

 

Of course he won’t serve time. I’m sure if he is even arrested and charged, he will claim PTSD and nightmares about Black men coming after him and get off with just probation IF convicted.

 

Posted by Steve  August 20, 2014 at 5:28 am.  

 

Since there are not even charges of murder against the officer yet much less a conviction your question is premature.

 

Posted by SoINeedAName  August 17, 2014 at 2:24 pm.  

 

Darren (chuckle-chuckle) Wilson (tee-hee) do PRISON (chortle-chortle) TIIME (guffaw-guffaw) for murdering a black man (bwaaa-haaaaa … snort … cough … gasp … No, really – I’m OK now …

?

 

DAMN – w/e you’re toking, I WANT SOME OF IT!

 

Posted by Yvonne White  August 16, 2014 at 5:29 pm.  

 

I believe the "award-winning" cop will not be charged – but will probably resign & move to another country very soon…

 

Posted by Lynn Squance  August 16, 2014 at 11:16 am.  

 

I said ‘no’. I have lost faith in the American justice system. Look back at Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman shot the kid and walked away from it. And I am sure that there have been others. Now Michael Brown. It seems "SSDD".

 

I have experienced racism twice — once as a pre teen and second as a teen. The first was my maternal grandfather who grabbed me by the scruff as we walked to the corner store in a Buffalo, NY neighbourhood. "Get over here girl or the "n …rs" are going to get you." That left such an indelible mark on me that I will never forget it. I was apalled at my grandfather and never forgave him for that hateful remark. The second came when I was going out with a black student about 1970. He was from Jamaica and the cousin of my best friend. One day at school I heard a group of his "friends" (with friends like that, who needs enemies?

talking and saying "he’s trying to see how far he can get with a little white girl". I was angry. There can be racism onall sides, however, historical evidence going back into the 1600’s, and probably before, shows that racism was and is alive and well. That should not be!

 

If there is any repercussion towards Wilson, I don’t think it will be more than a slap on the wrist, not even termination of employment. I hope I am wrong because racism is a cancer that too easily metastacises affecting all of society.

 

Posted by Lynn Squance in reply to Lynn Squance  August 16, 2014 at 11:17 am. 

 

That ‘smiley’ should be a bracket. Don’t know how it got there.

 

Posted by Joanne D  August 16, 2014 at 4:34 am.  

 

Seeing as the chief prosecutor of the county is one of the most livid that Nixon even brought the Highway Patrol in, and seeing as they won’t even interview eyewitnesses, even if it got to trial there would be no evidence presented to convict.

 

Posted by jla  August 16, 2014 at 2:12 am.  

 

There will be grounds for a mistrial due to prosecutor bias

 

Posted by Dandelion  August 16, 2014 at 1:13 am.  

 

If they have Stand Your Ground law he will most certainly get off. All someone has to do is look at you wrong and say your life felt threatened.

They have circled the wagons around their own. They "might" sacrifice him to get the spotlight off of the rest of them if the heat and attention stay on it.

But I lean more to the he’ll get away with it. Sadly in our Country the scales of justice are rigged.

 

Posted by gene jacobson  August 16, 2014 at 12:57 am.  

 

Probably not. Now that they are throwing around allegations that Michael "may" have been a suspect in a minor shoplifting incident, though Wilson did NOT know that, and muddying the waters, sadly, the most that will likely happen is they may fire one racist cop – eventually.

 

Posted by Lona Goudswaard  August 15, 2014 at 8:54 pm.  

 

Too many other cases like this in the past to make me think that this time common sense or justice will prevail. However, I can hope for a different outcome, can’t I?

 

Posted by Edie  August 15, 2014 at 4:06 pm.  

 

Very few police officers ever serve time for murders they commit while on the job. In view of the racism apparent in that area, I doubt any jury would convict if he were even indicted.

The poll results are no surprise, but I ant5icipated a lively discussion in the comment section.  You did not disappoint. I  voted No, of course.

The new poll is a bit of humor for a time when everyone is busy with the end of summer and the beginning of school.  It has s special feature you have requested for months.