Yesterday I continued to feel pretty rank, but I’m trying to blog on a limited basis. I’m current on today’s and yesterday’s replies. Tomorrow is touch and go.
Jig Zone Puzzle:
Today it took me 3:44 (average 4:54). To do it, click here. How did you do?
Short Takes:
From MoveOn.org: 300 Economists Who Stand With #OccupyWallStreet
Occupy Economics from Softbox on Vimeo.
Once again, truth has a liberal bias.
From Houston Chronicle: Small businesses and startups that were skittish about the economy this summer started hiring in bigger numbers this fall, helping drive the unemployment rate down to 8.6 percent in November, the lowest in two and a half years.
This is such a disaster for Republicans that the Republican Ministry of Propaganda, Faux Noise, lied about it. When they announced it, they displayed “Unemployment 9%” prominently.
From Washington Post: The White House is accusing the Democratic-controlled Senate of “political micromanagement” at the expense of national security. The comments come with a renewed threat to veto the defense bill in dispute.
The Senate passed the massive $662 billion bill Thursday night on a 93-7 vote. The measure would require military custody of suspected terrorists, even those captured within the U.S., and indefinitely detain some without trial.
Unless these items are removed in conference, it is imperative that Obama veto the defense budget, as he has said he would.
Cartoon:
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“The Senate passed the massive $662 billion bill Thursday night on a 93-7 vote. The measure would require military custody of suspected terrorists, even those captured within the U.S., and indefinitely detain some without trial.”
What this doesn’t say is that you can be a natural born US Citizen and be taken into custody and held indefinitely This is another attack on Habeus Corpus and I am sorry to say it was written by Carl Levin D-MI. He took over Phil Harts seat (Their office building is named after him) when Sen Hart retired. He is not up for re-election this year but the junior senator Debbie Stabenow is and she voted for this piece of shit legislative amendment as well. I may be forced to not vote for senate race this year. I am also taking bets that Obama does not have the balls to veto this.
Mark, the 93-7 vote represents laziness, because the bill that passed 93-7 was the entire defense budget, not that provision. However when that provision came to vote, 15 Democrats goose stepped with the Republicans and voted for it. Most of them come from Republican leaning states and, in my opinion, voted out of fear of being accused they are soft on terrorism. The Obama administration does not want it The President, SecDef, DNI, FBI Director and CIA Director all oppose it, so I wouldn’t count out an Obama veto. I would have blogged the original legislation, but I was out sick.
4:18
I can scarcely believe that everybody voted for this bill? Did they even read it?
Well I finally beat you after five in a row. 🙂
Yes. See my reply to Mark.
GET BETTER! Love the video, but am dismayed that the occupy movement appears to refuse to politicize itself – all the support has been from progressives, but there is such distrust of government and parties that an underlying cynicism has taken over, if anything creates a demise to the movement I fear that fatal flaw will be it. While I watch the gradual right turn of the government and its drift toward fascism, its control of our “renegade” police by Homeland Security, the detention of people (like me?) indefinitely at huge expense this is not where I want MY tax money to go – one more idiot president like bush and we’re Argentina – this is a fearsome concern of mine – and one which makes me withdraw my support of “Mayors against illegal guns” a group that I’ve supported for years, being a pacifist – but now I’m beginning to see the original intention of the 2nd amendment – and wonder if I’ve been mistaken!
Thanks Lee. Perhaps it’s better that #Occupy remain nonpartisan, lest there be accusations that it is astro-turfed like the baggers.
Faux “News” is unabashedly brazen … they didn’t just “lie” – they TRUMPETED their lie:
That’s the screen to which I was referring. I was telling the truth, huh? 😀
Economists — I think they summed it up well with “We declare our solidarity with the occupiers who are exercising our democratic right to demand economic and social justice.”
Too often, opponents of OWS have said that the OWS does not know what it is protesting. But I believe they do know — economic and social injustice! The problem is, opponents are looking for detailed lists of grievances, while OWS is painting in broad brush strokes. OWS knows things are broken. It will take 1) dialogue to start to understand, to draw plans and discover solutions, and 2) action to fix what is wrong. Dialgue, as in discussion between two points of view, or more, coming to consensus. It cannot be all one sided but the solutions must serve the many, not the few.
Faux Noise — Just goes to show that Faux Noise only understands simple things — single digits. Decimals are way beyond their scope!
Defense Bill — I agree with Patty! Did those voting for it, especially the Democrats, even read it? I certainly home that Mr Obama vetoes the bill as he said he would. And who are the 7 that voted against it? I’d like to shake their hands.
Cartoon — Old Newt grew up to be just like young Newt — his hand always in the cookie jar! Good cartoon.
Yes.
I agree.
They want government to be fair and receptive to the needs of all the people.
LOL!
See my reply to Mark.
Thanks!
4:10 Not bad, but not good enough. You have your jigsaw health back, TomCat. Let’s hope the rest of your health follows soon.
Thanks Jerry. I’m afraid you’re in for another …umm… challenge.