I did not realize that the Debate was on CNN, and to my dismay, I could not watch it, because CNN isn’t in my channel lineup until Friday. So everything I have to say is second hand. I found a good summary and have five video clips of after debate coverage by MSNBC. From what I understand, the overall winner was Elizabeth Warren.
…Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass: She stuck to her sharp attacks on corporations, promoted her progressive plans and dominated much of the night. Rather than going after Bernie Sanders — her closest rival in the polls, who stood next to her on stage — Warren came to his defense while effectively fending off attacks from more moderate candidates.
Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.: Sanders brought his typical forceful debating style and clear message. He traded punches with the moderates who attacked his plans and unabashedly touted his movement for radical change in America. And he held on to his position in the top tier of candidates.
Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana: His strongest moments came when he talked about his faith and military service, pledging to withdraw troops from Afghanistan in his first year. He struggled with a question about race relations and at times got lost in policy nuance. While his campaign has lost steam, he played it safe and shied away from broadsides at other candidates.
Former Texas Rep. Beto O’Rourke: As in the first debate, he lacked a moment that differentiated him from the pack or clearly defined what he stood for. His once-promising campaign has been flat-lining — and nothing he did Tuesday night is likely to alter that trajectory.
Former Maryland Rep. John Delaney: On policy, he provided the biggest contrast with Sanders and Warren with a pro-business, capitalist message, particularly on health care. And Delaney held his ground amid blows from Sanders and Warren, who accused him of using Republican talking points.
Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio: He had a much stronger performance than in the first debate, better establishing himself as the blue-collar candidate. Ryan took on the policies of Warren and Sanders and offered a warning to the progressive pair that their proposals would alienate working-class voters — like those in his Midwest district — and hand Trump a second term… [emphasis original]
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According to the article, the other four failed to stand our.
Elizabeth Warren: Medicare For All Is Cheaper Than Our Current System
I was pleased with what I heard on how she did. She should just say that, while average Americans’ taxes will increase, their out of pocket medical expense will decrease far more.
Beto O’Rourke Says Texas Is In Play For Democrats In 2020
I’d love to see TX flip blue.
Kornacki: Sanders, Warren ‘Appealing To Different Coalitions With A Very Similar Message’
I’m glad they are concentrating ideas, not conflict.
Democrats Hit Donald Trump On Racist Attacks On Night One Of Second Debate
Trump is not a racist, the Pope is not Catholic, and bears never, ever shit in the woods.
Debate Night 1: Progressives Vs. Moderates Square Off
I have to admit that we need to phase-in single payer health care. I like a Medicare for All plan with an opt out option for people whose employers and unions want to offer them private insurance.
There you have it. If you saw the debate, what did you think?
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I didn’t have a chance to watch the debates, had company over, but after reviewing some of the vids, Ms. Warren came out, (to me), as a strong contender in this race. imho. Her clapback to Delaney was spot on. I do like Pete B. too.
Gawd, I’d love to see Texas turn blue!
I didn’t see it, but what I’ve read generally falls into line with your article, barring some people writing with hurt fee-fees.I think Delaney is delusional to worry about Warren and Wanders alienating people in the midwest, simply because both of them, and also Reich, have BEEN to the midwest and been overwhelmingly applauded. It isn’t our policies that Trumpers don’t like, well, maybe, except our policy on racism.
“people whose employers and unions want to offer them private insurance” – WANT TO? ROTFLAPMP! Speaking as a retiree, I don’t see any employers “wanting to” offer private insurance. My private insurance from an employer became secondary to Medicare at 12:01 a.m. on my 65th birthday, and it has subsequently changed from insurance to an employer-funded HSA, which costs them less and gives me more coverage at the same time. If a big company like USAA can’t make health insurance work, I don’t see unions having any better luck, although unions, being of and for employees, might well want to. I agree that “Medicare for all who want it” is a great start, but it may surprise a lot of people how fast it will transition into “Medicare for all.”
I did not try to see the debate, had faith in Warren, and am glad to hear that she “dominated.” When eventually comes down to the 2 major candidates, will watch…with barf bag at the ready!
If Texas is really in play, election night will be especially exciting!
I don’t have cable TV (just internet), so I didn’t see it. But WaPo has a transcript.
From the news reports I did like this offering from Mayor Pete:
Love Buttigieg’s quote. All too true – Republicans knee-jerk label anything that Democrats propose as “crazy socialism.” If Democrats proposed a huge tax cut for the rich, or a total ban on abortion, Republicans would scream “crazy socialism.”
I like Warren’s vision, but the Democrats need more than plans – they need a MESSAGE to reach the public. That is why the Orange Ogre got in the White House, with his simplistic and vague “Make America Great Again” propaganda. Hillary Clinton’s “I’m With Her” didn’t cut it.
Warren & Bernie kicked a$$! 🙂 They did not turn on each other, but showed up all the “moderate” (Republican-lite) wanna-bes. Bernie’s best line “I wrote the damn law!” Warren was fantastic with “I don’t know why anyone goes through the trouble to run for president just to talk about what we really can’t do and shouldn’t fight for.” – Elizabeth Warren
“I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas.” – Bernie Sanders
(from DFA) When CNN pushed GOP talking points challenging the feasibility of Medicare for All and the Green New Deal, Bernie and Elizabeth teamed up and passionately fought for the bold policy plans that will actually create a country that works for everyone.
What did the corporate shill dems like Tim Ryan, John Hickenlooper, and John Delaney do? They attacked Medicare for All and advocated for the for-profit insurance companies that are ripping people off, pushing people into debt after hospital visits, and forcing people to choose between paying the rent or affording medication like insulin.
As Mayor Pete Buttigieg pointed out, they used Republican scare tactics and shouted “socialism!” to try and scare Americans away from the kind of changes we so desperately need.
They tried to argue that our progressive values and policies are too extreme and will lead to four more years of Trump. Hickenlooper said that with bold ideas like Medicare for All, debt-free college tuition, a Green New Deal, and other progressive policies, we “might as well Fedex the election to Donald Trump.” That’s bullshit.
The debate moderators didn’t help either, with every question framed as an attack on progressives. They actually asked, “Is Bernie Sanders too extreme to beat Donald Trump?” What kind of question is that?
We see what’s happening here, Yvonne: they’re trying to make Democrats question if we’ve gone too far left. And in response to that, we couldn’t agree more with Bernie’s and Elizabeth’s responses:
“I don’t know why anyone goes through the trouble to run for president just to talk about what we really can’t do and shouldn’t fight for.” – Elizabeth Warren
“I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas.” – Bernie Sanders
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democratic-debate-late-night-television-hosts-react_n_5d413249e4b01d8c97835754?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003&fbclid=IwAR3IVyswosYsHWoFcuoJTocRtiWL0l-lCftSe-gffZY4vUh3erHMORPQ8hA
Didn’t watch the debates. I recorded them, but had doctor and PT appointments both days. Have a dentist appointment to go to tomorrow afternoon, so will try to catch up on what happened tomorrow evening.
Of course, watching the debate was not an option for me partially because I don’t have cable, and partially because I am in the wrong country. But I have read plenty. It seems that many of the candidates, particularly night 2, did not bring their A game. On night 1, it is generally thought that Warren won the night.
One thing that particularly amuses me is the healthcare debate. For me being from one of those ‘socialist’ countries, I had government health insurance to which my employer paid one half of the monthly premium of $75/month and I had extended health insurance through a health insurance corporation such as Blue Cross. So my coverage was a blend of public and private. What is so difficult to understand for your politicians etc? Just get it done for the people!!!
I do wish I had time to watch it all, but I haven’t, so I’ll withhold comments for now.
Thanks, moving Hugs, and Amen to all
Don’t let the Repubs scare you, other countries have this benefit and the US can do it too.The repubs wanted Obama care to fail and tried to take it away too. we all need this!
be sure to go Vote Vote Blue no matter who!
Thank you TomCat
it is sad we must give up our access to Care2. Good luck to all!