Feb 202020
 

The Nevada debate was far more interesting than any of the earlier ones.  In my opinion, my two favorites finished first and second.  I was most pleased to see Elizabeth Warren so dominant that NBC couldn’t okie-doke her the way ABC did in New Hampshire.  I was also pleased to see Mike Bloomberg [R-NY]  learn that having to buy his place on the debate stage showed that he never deserved his place there.

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The top six contenders for the Democratic nomination gathered Wednesday night for (what feels like) the 7,000th primary debate of the 2020 cycle. But the latest episode of the politics-themed reality show that we’ve all come to know and dread was markedly livelier than its predecessors. And it isn’t hard to see why. Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, and Joe Biden all came to Las Vegas desperate to improve their campaigns’ flagging fortunes with a big gamble or two. Bernie Sanders, meanwhile, is dispositionally incapable of allowing his newfound front-runner status to soften the edges of pugilistic populism. And Michael Bloomberg couldn’t help but bring out his co-partisans’ inner Robespierres.

So, who won the rumble in Nevada? Here’s a definitive ranking of the candidates’ nights from best to worst (as measured by the subjective impressions of an exceptionally unrepresentative white man in New York City):

1) Elizabeth Warren

The Massachusetts senator’s campaign is probably beyond saving. Warren entered Wednesday night’s debate polling in fourth place nationally, some 15.5 points behind the front-running Bernie Sanders. Current surveys suggest she is poised to win no more than a negligible number of delegates in the Nevada caucuses, none in South Carolina, and, per FiveThirtyEight’s model, just 8 percent of 1,357 pledged delegates up for grab on Super Tuesday.

But if there was anything Warren could do to revive her candidacy in Nevada on Wednesday night, she did it many times over. In recent weeks, the senator has tried to smooth out the rougher edges of her populist persona, in a bid to cast herself as the “unity” candidate (and/or to mitigate any potential gendered double-standard the electorate might apply toward female candidates who code as aggressive). But pugnacity is just another word for nothing left to lose. And with her campaign on the ropes, Warren reprised the role that had made her name: merciless inquisitor of the superrich and powerful.

Within minutes of the debate’s opening, Warren stopped the show, threw the nearest billionaire up against a wall, frisked him — and revealed that beneath the would-be emperor’s gilded façade lay little more than an empty suit…

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Please click through for the rest of the article. After Warren, the authors list, in order of finish, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar , and Mike Bloomberg. I agree, except that I would put Pete in third and Joe in fourth.

If you want to watch the entire debate: Watch The Full NBC News/MSNBC Democratic Debate In Las Vegas

For a debate summary…

Watch Highlights Of The Democratic Debate In 5 Minutes


Kudos to Liz for coming to Amy’s aid in the face of Pete’s unfair attack.  Here are two about Liz alone.

Fat broads” and “horse-faced lesbians Warren rips Bloomberg


Elizabeth Warren Targets Mike Bloomberg For His Company’s Non-Disclosure Agreements


Woooo Hoooo! Did Liz tear that misogynist Republican a new asshole or what?

RESIST!!

 

 

 

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  9 Responses to “Nevada Debate: Big Win for Warren”

  1. I watched parts of it last night, and re-capped what you put up too (again).
    Ms. Warren has the goods, knows what she’s talking about….and what I like about her, is that she can state a fact w/o blowing a gasket on stage. She’s a straight shooter, and does not back down. Like standing up for Amy.
    Can’t wait until she goes after dt, and takes him down. GO, Ms. Warren! 
    I like Amy too, both gals did well last night. jmo. 

  2. Everyone talks unity.  Liz demonstrates it.  Nothing wrong with talking it, I’m glad they are.  But there’s a definite distinction.

    There’s a guy whose comments I follow on Disqus (the comment engine which is used by Raw Story, AlterNet, Crooks and Liars, and a host of others too number ous to mention) who has been a special forces soldier, a lawyer, and a CEO/entrepreneur (not all at the same time of course.)  He’s also rigorous on facts and figures.  He feels that Luz is the only one he can trust to, if elected, have the DOJ actually go after corruption rather than let anything slide.  That, of course, is an opinion and not subject to fact checking, but from that source, I listen.

  3. This debate I watched in its entirety, and felt Liz did best.  Biden looked ill to me.  He had a couple of moments that are like one’s walking into the kitchen and immediately forgetting why one had done so.  When he did not do that I found him unimpressive.  Bloomberg had no good answer for Liz’ question about the “Be quiet” agreements, seemed, at one point, to be saying that they might not have been about he and the women, but staff members, instead.  But, he never did make that clear.  It appears that Bernie is staying well ahead of the pack, and we’ll have to see how the DNC deals with that this time.  My almost 35 y/o son texted during the debate to say that he thinks Pete is “A rat.”  We did not ask for clarification, but that son is probably representative of many millennials. 
    Liz continues to impress me with her clarity, and apparent forthrightness. If Bernie gets the nod, however, it might not be good to have a deep New England ticket.  I could see him with Amy.  
    On another note, I received an e-mail survey, asking if I would vote for Bloomberg and Hillary as a ticket against Trump.  Like I’ve said, I’d vote for Stormy against Trump.  I chose not to answer the survey, because it involves what I see as a loaded question, and was probably put out by Bloomie’s people.  And, NO, as much as I like her, I do not want Hillary to run, as doing so would, IMHO, revive the old hatreds.  I can see Trump blathering about “What they are running THIS looser again?”

  4. Liz’s straight-shooting questions and lack of coherent answers from Bloomberg made headlines all over the world. All news panels, especially the women on them, were very much taken by Elizabeth Warrens performance but all of them also commented in one way or another that she didn’t stand a chance for the nomination or was unelectable etc.

    It is clear that these pundits get their information from American media, so Liz’s electability rating must stem from them. It seems that Democratic minds are just as much under siege from their media as Republican minds are under siege from Faux News. I’ve got the feeling that the Democratic elite is going to pull the same stunt with Liz as they did with Bernie in 2016. But it won’t stop there, after it finishes dealing with Liz, they’ll go after Bernie again, confident that their voter will vote for anyone to get rid of Trump.

  5. agree with your analysis, very upset how ABC ‘disappeared’ @EWarren in NH debate….she’s got 4 votes I know of already in early voting here in MN…..

  6. Sen. Warren was SPECTACULAR!

    She’s always been my hands-down favorite – and last night she showed America why!

    She has demonstrated a knowledge that is wide and comprehensive, and a demeanor that is (at last) most-welcomed!

    While I like a lot of Bernie’s ideas (and I know I’ll take incoming for this), I find him and his endless, pointy-finger air-jabbing extremely annoying.  Additionally, it’s been widely reported how many Bernie Bros behavior is at best off-putting

    We’ve suffered through three years of Trumpkins obnoxiousness – we don’t need four more of Bernie Bros relentless hooliganism and endless attacks on anyone who disagrees with them.

    Plus Trump’s support of a Bernie nominee does NOT make me comfortable.

    GO LIZ!

  7. Ms. Warren was outstanding.
    If she can knock Bloomberg down, she certainly can take care of tRump.

  8. Thanks, TGIF Hugs, and AMEN to all! 23

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