Whether you agree with the pundits who characterized this week’s Vice-President Debate as the “Thrilla in Vanilla” featuring bland-to-bland combat or not, it’s the only time (thank God!) we’ll have to put up with Pence’s pitiful prevarications on primetime TV. (Whatever else you may think of Pence, you’ve got to hand it to him – the man can lie with the same aplomb as his running mate. Although it appears he may even be denying that Trump IS his running mate based on his lack of knowledge – or willful ignorance.)
To let you know up front what my take on the evening, I’ll tell you right now how I’d score the debate:
Style – Pence
Substance – Kaine
Evening’s Winner – Folks who watched anything else
So what did the “Twitterverse” have to say about the night? It was the common consensus that Kaine’s incessant interruptions were a distraction that undermined his clear superior command of the facts – and I’d agree with that. But “Liar, Liar Pence on Fire” wanton and repeated denial of easily verifiable facts also produced the consensus that while Pence may have won the evening, Kaine won the morning.
Facts and truth have a way of doing that – at least we hope so!
Pence laughs dismissively every time Kaine quotes an outrageous Trump quote.
It's increasingly clear he just doesn't want to defend Trump.
— Mo Elleithee (@MoElleithee) October 5, 2016
The pattern in this debate: Governor Pence is pretending that Trump's statements and policies don't exist, rather than defending them.
— Mike Schmidt (@mikereedschmidt) October 5, 2016
It was shocking how much Pence was allowed to lie by the moderator. It was shocking how much he lied, period.
— Matt O'Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) October 5, 2016
So while Pence lied the night away – he looked “Presidential” … very “Presidential” … with his lying. To the point that some pundits wondered how Pence’s upstaging his boss would sit with Trump.
"Whether Pence made tacit decision to abandon his boss or simply wasn't up to the challenge I don't know." https://t.co/7bwM6XgYQq #VPDebate
— America's Voice (@AmericasVoice) October 5, 2016
Trump adviser on debate after Pence passed up opportunities to defend him: "Pence won overall, but lost with Trump"
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) October 5, 2016
more from adviser on Trump reaction to strong Pence debate following poor Trump showing last week: "he can't stand to be upstaged"
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) October 5, 2016
Hell, even Bill “The Bloody” Kristol joined in
I've been critical of @GovPenceIN as VP candidate, but I do want to congratulate him for throwing @realDonaldTrump under the bus last night.
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) October 5, 2016
So the question is, did Pence throw Trump under the bus in order to position himself for a run in 2020?
Second debate in a row where Trump can complain of a Mike that wasn't working for him.
— Mike Gehrke (@mikegehrke) October 5, 2016
And the follow-up question of, how would “The Donald” react to the fact that republicans now wish they had chosen Pence over him because Pence looked slicker while bullshitting Americans with his bald-faced lies. (GOP: “Facts? We don’t need no stinkin’ facts!”)
Was there any doubt that Trump would recover by taking full credit for Pence’s performance?
TRUMP on Pence: "I’m getting a lot of credit…he was my first hire." pic.twitter.com/10OUt2yRyI
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 5, 2016
The Twitterverse did veer off on a tangent sympathizing with the impossible task for Moderator Elaine Quijano of keeping control and fact-checking Pence’s endless lies.
If I wanted to watch two white dudes bicker near a woman named Elaine, I would definitely just watch Seinfeld.
— Maris Kreizman (@mariskreizman) October 5, 2016
So of course we were then treated to a flurry of Elaine/Seinfeld Tweets …
Elaine dealing with all these interruptions #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/2WPr7dpyXY
— Danase Macabre (@DanaSchwartzzz) October 5, 2016
Elaine during this debate #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/hoftQeV7bV
— Alex Bedder (@itgetsbedder) October 5, 2016
Where's the Go Fund Me to buy Elaine Quijano a drink? #VPDebate
— Nicole Paulhus (@nlpaulhus) October 5, 2016
But then we were taken aback when Pence, a full-fledged Talibangelical christianist, provided a couple of surprising double entendres:
"I try to spend a little time every day on my knees."
"You whipped out that Mexican thing again."
This has taken an unexpected turn.— Mark Harris (@MarkHarrisNYC) October 5, 2016
So what’s the final verdict? Kaine may not have won, but it’s clear that Trump lost:
All you need to know about the VP debate. pic.twitter.com/94Ah9QR3bm
— Zachary Fedell (@zatchry) October 5, 2016
And the bottom line take-home:
Pence is giving the country a very good preview of how the Republican Party is going to move beyond Trump. Just pretend he never happened.
— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) October 5, 2016
Here’s a minute and a half video highlighting a few of Pence’s prevarications:
My conclusion? There’s absolutely nothing Trump won’t outsource. Not even his lying!
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Good one, Nameless.
Cross posted to Care2 at http://www.care2.com/news/member/101612212/4014704
Wow. How can a debate between the guy who extends summer curfew and the guy who wants to lock up his daughter generate more and better humor than the big one? What a masterful job you have done here to compile it all, and punctuate it with puns. Since we all must suffer through the election, we are so lucky that you are here to distill the humor for us.
This is great!!
Thank you, Nameless for this post, and Joanne for cross posting.
Love it, thanks Nameless.
Great stuff, Nameless. I especially liked your: " My conclusion? There’s absolutely nothing Trump won’t outsource. Not even his lying!" Can I quote you on thar one?