I’m trying to be lazy today, so I can watch the VP debate tonight. The best outcome is that Kaine makes a convincing argument that Pence, Trump and the downballot Republicans are all virtually the same.
Jig Zone Puzzle:
Today’s took me 4:48 (average 5:13). To do it, click here. How did you do?
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Here’s the news from Week 4 in our own fantasy football league.
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Oh how the mighty hath fallen!
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From KP Daily Funnies: Drunk Trump 4: The Drunkest Guy at the Bar
I have to admit that there have been several times I wondered what drug he was on.
From Daily Kos: In 1997, Keith Cooper was arrested and convicted for an armed robbery in Elkhart, Indiana. After serving 10 years for the conviction, DNA evidence pointed to another man, already in custody for a similar crime. Every eyewitness account also recanted their testimony that led to Mr. Cooper’s conviction, as the witnesses were denied a police line up they requested before the trial. Cooper’s retrial was ordered, but the new prosecutor, Curtis Hill, offered Keith a plea deal which would give him an immediate release, rather than waiting months or years for the retrial. All Keith had to do was admit his guilt for a crime he didn’t commit. Keith’s wife and children were about to become homeless, so what else could Keith do? What would you do? Keith has been living with the stigma and real limitations of being a convicted felon ever since.
And now, Governor Mike Pence, Trump’s Vice-Presidential running mate, refuses to provide justice to Keith Cooper, even after admitting Cooper’s innocence. In an ongoing battle to remove his felony status, Mr. Pence finally responded…by delaying a decision. His reasoning?
“Although the judicial system may not be perfect, given the extraordinary nature of Mr. Cooper’s request, we need to be certain the judicial process is complete and has been given every opportunity to address any error that may have occurred."
In other words, he basically doesn’t want to, and goes on to make the absurd argument that no governor has ever pardoned an innocent man.
I keep hearing the argument that, if Rump Dump is elected, he’ll be a figurehead, and Pence will be running things. I don’t believe it, but if it’s true, Pence is no better than Trump. In spite of Republican disingenuous claims to the contrary, Trump and Pence reflect the policies and positions of the Republican Party perfectly.
From The New Yorker: Governor Chris Christie, of New Jersey, called Donald J. Trump a “genius” on Monday for his controversial plan to burn down the White House to collect insurance money.
Appearing on Fox News, Christie said that Trump’s scheme to collect fire-insurance payments on the White House would “make a serious dent” in the national debt.
“It’s not just the White House,” Christie told Fox’s Sean Hannity. “That building is chock-full of priceless antiques, paintings, and rugs, all of which, when burned, would fetch a pretty penny.”
Actually, Andy, it’s a pretty good idea. If Trump becomes President, he’ll destroy the government and the nation so quickly, that there will no longer be a need for a White House.
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5:39 (5:13) I slipped a gear.
FF – Oops.
KPDF – "KP Drunk Funnies" Whatever drug or combination Trump is on , it's sure to be expensive, and may even contain gold dust.
DKos – This pushed all my buttons too. I almost bookmarked it for the next Furies, but I expected it to get more attention than what I usually go for – and it is. I can't imagine what universe he is living in to suggest "No governor has ever pardoned an innocent man." I always thought the pardon was the exact and preferred remedy of choice when it becomes so obvious someone is innocent that it's dumb to spend all that money – THE PEOPLE'S MONEY, MIKE – to run it back through court.
New Yorker – As a retired insurance professional – SHUDDER! (Not that Trump and his crew could do it without getting caught – and no insurance company would pay. Umm – is the White House even commercially covered? I would expect it to be self-insured by the Federal Government.)
Cartoon – I believe it! Just like Republicans to want to scare, not soothe, children.
Incidentally, anyone who is interested in laughing at Trump (which I assume in the privacy of our resting time we all are – when we are not working to defeat him, that is) may want to take a glimmer at http://www.laughtertrumpshate.com/#laugh Set up by MoveOn, it includes many responses (well, just a few at this URL, but you can go deeper) to a nationwide call for entries from humorists in all media. I thought the song "Make America Great Again" was exquisite.
For some reason, that page won't display for me.
Sorry you had trouble with http://www.laughtertrumpshate.com/#laugh My shortcut to it shows that URL, but as it starts to come up it shows http://www.laughtertrumpshate.com/ in the address line, then adds the #laugh as it is loading. You might try the shorter one ans see if it accomplishes anything. Failing that, though, the four winners are on YouTube with their own URLs. The crowd favorite winner is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf9K5KEs4rE The stand-up winner is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9EladrEVg The sketch winner is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoLLXpltZok The impression winner is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOJqcaCBfLg And – the last three all have closed captions! Unfortunately the crowd favorite doesn't. I'll work on a transcript, but I don't know how much time I will have; I have my own grocery delivery today.
Guurgh! I got a transcript – on the other computer – and an hour ago that computert died. But the groceries have come and are put away, so I'll try again .
ATGH!! How frustrating! don't worry about it. I saw the video. Hope the computer is reborn and that you enjoy your groceries. Who delivers them?
Glad you could see the video. It's called HomeShop and belongs to Kroger, which here is King Soopers or City Market. I am outside the city limits so Safeway hasn't gotten to me yet, and I can never find everything in one place (everything that suits both my tastes and also my allergies), so I hope they will eventually. And I will probably always have to trek to "Natural Grocers by Vitamin Cottage." I don't have much hope for the computer – but so much is on the portable hard drive the only thing I really need to reconstruct is my desktop, and I may be able to salvage that, or get someone to help me do so. Just, as you say, frustrating.
KPDF: He might as well go to a bar. This is hilarious!!
DK: Such a tragedy. Pence has the ability to release this man and doesn't. is So very sad for him, and his family!!
NYer: Keep them rolling, Andy. Classic!!
Cartoon: Frightening, isn't it?
I plan on having a quiet evening. Weather is really nice, enjoying it. Have a good evening, take care, and Thanks, Tom.
Puzzle — 3:39 Well fortunately, my chain did not leave the sprocket!
KP Daily Funnies — Personally, I think Drumpf's drug of choice is power. He says he does not drink (read alcohol) and I could believe that because he does not like giving up power and alcohol too often takes power. Likewise with drugs, illicit or otherwise. This just makes him seem all the more mentally unhinged.
Daily Kos — Well, well! How Republican! Republican and justice in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
Pence needs to be challenged on this in the debate tonight.
The New Yorker — Typical Republican . . . greed before all else!
Cartoon — Even that won't help Republicans!
Oh, ANDY! That one made my heart skip a beat when I read that! TOO funny! Man, he is getting so close to the truth that it is scary!
Ahhh! Second place. I thought that I would end up in last PLACE! Had a great game this weekend! So CLOSE! Wow!
KPDF: Watched it twice, just in case I missed something–Not funny, stupid, just like the last one!
DK: Why would anyone expect the GOP/Donny Boy to have invited anyone but a diehard GOPig to run for VP? The bits of the debate I've seen, however(having walked out when Pence referred to trump's "Extraordinary business acumen, just more BS!), seem to show Pence holding to a calm comfort level.
New Yorker: Well, is that "business acumen?" Christie, Rumpy, and Hannity, the "Three Horsemen of Drumpfocalyse!"
Mitch, the point is that trumps words and slurred speech seem naturat when superimposed to a drunk at a bar.
I watched as much of the debate as I could stand, then Pence went on a rant about e mails, so I changed the litter box instead of watching anymore. I got a distress call from my husband when they started talking about abortion, so I went back in, mistake. That is all the Republicans in this area will talk about tomorrow. They will protect the fetus, but ignore the child, witness the cuts to any program that would help a poverty stricken family!
Kp Funnies: I am not sure his on something, as off something. Reality.
Daily Kos: I wish Kaine had brought this up tonight, to show that holier-than-thou Pence is just like all the rest of the right wingers who pretend not to be racist. If Trump is elected, Pence will be nothing but a place mat.
The New Yorker: I wish he would quit giving them ideas, I love the White House.
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Sorry, clicked too soon. The cartoon is spot on!
Hope you "enjoyed" the VP debate, TomCat. news here was that Pence did much better than Drumpf because he was much better prepared. At times the contrast was so striking it seemed at times that Pence was mainly there " “Mike Pence for President 2020 (or 2024)”. But he couldn't defend his boss on all issues but overall it came down to using Drumpfs own tactics: denying that he ever said all the things he has ever said.
KPDF: Wow, put in the right perspective Drumpf really sounds drunk sometimes, doesn't he. And he makes as much sense all of the other times. Drumpf maintains he doesn't drink, but if he says so, by now we're bound to think the opposite. It could of course also be caused by taking any type of Benzodiazepine like Xanax to calm his nerves. Could it be that this great orator needs a bit of Dutch courage or an anxiety reducing drug before he can face his audience or reality. Naaaahhhh.
DK: Drumpf and Pence are not the exactly same, but certainly are two sides of the same Republican coin. Drumpf's is the greedy, money-grabbing, fraudulent shady business. stab-in-the-back, me first side, Pence's is the pseudo-Christian, I'm-always-right-so-you're-wrong, zealotry-drenched, immoral morality side, with a lot of overlap in the heart of the coin. They complement each other frighteningly well.
TNY: Any, couldn't you have Drumpf wait until he was in it, and having Christie over for tea and cake, before he set the place ablaze? I mean,: really – no escape possible – ablaze. That would certainly save the country a pretty penny.
Cartoon: Soon to be seen on a lawn near you?
The debate was ugly…everyone says Pence won but I thought he was smarmy and didn't actually answer many questions – he also won the fact checks for most non-truths. It's all nauseating…. Eric Trump was on CNN after and made me want to barf – four years of Trumps? Argggggh
What Andy doesn't say is that if Trump is in the White House, we the people might want to burn it down – with him in it, of course.
LOL Arielle! . . . burn the WH with Drumpf in it if he wins.
I managed to watch the entire debate w/o hurling all over my lap top!
Lona: "But he couldn't defend his boss on all issues but overall it came down to using Drumpfs own tactics: denying that he ever said all the things he has ever said." Yep! Looking forward to your piece today on the "debate".
Thanks all!! Hugs!!