For me to take use a Republican’s opinion as an illustration of a view, with which I agree, is a highly rare occurrence. Usually the exact opposite is true, since virtually everything Republican politicians and pundits say and do is worthy of contempt, outrage, or ridicule. However, Rep. Steve King (R-IA) has actually said something valid.
Rep. Steve King (R-IA), who has endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), said on Tuesday that the Republican party could split if Cruz wins the presidential nomination over Donald Trump on the second ballot at the July convention.
"If the establishment comes in and tries to amend the rules to disadvantage either of those top two candidates or to advantage either one of those top two candidates, I think that there could be chaos erupt [sic] in Cleveland. And the result of that could be a party that could be split," King said on the "Frankly Speaking" radio show, according to audio posted by Buzzfeed News.
He then said that the greatest risk to the party would be a Cruz win at a contested convention.
"The greater risk for the split of the party, though, would be if say we get to convention, nobody’s got the 1,237 and on a subsequent ballot, a second or subsequent ballot, if Ted Cruz wins the nomination –– which I would predict if there’s a second or subsequent ballot — and if Donald Trump decides to say, take his ball and go home, or go run on an independent ticket, that would be what would split the party," King said… [emphasis added]
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He’s right. At this point, there is no doubt that Fecal Dump Trump is the choice of Republican primary voters, One of three things will happen. Trump will win the nomination, Republican Party hacks will steal the nomination for the TRUSed Uranus Cruz, or Republican Party hacks will steal the nomination for someone with even less success in the primaries and caucuses.
If Cruz or someone else gets the Republican nomination through election theft, King’s predication will come to pass. Furthermore, they will lose all pretense of credibility, like the Democrats did in 1968, when Hubert Humphrey was handed the nomination with less that 175,000 popular votes to Gene McCarthy’s 2,900,000. With the Republican base angry over being disenfranchised most will not support and/or vote for the sham nominee. That is a huge plus for us.
On the other hand, if Fecal Dump Trump does get the nomination, establishment Republicans and pseudo-Christians, who favor the TRUSed Uranus, will not support and/or vote for Trump, That is also a huge plus for us.
So no matter what happens, a lot of Republicans will be staying home, and Democrats should reap the benefits way down the ballot, as long as we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot. With Bernie’s and Hillary’s campaigns and followers acting more and more acrimonious to each other, there is a danger that a lot of Democrats may get ruffled feathers and stay home, squandering the advantage gained from Republican incompetence. Both campaigns need to tone down the attacks.
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I am in agreement w/you on this, Tom.
Seeing the split, or end would be brighter future for all of us.
Yeah. I got into this discussion on AlterNet today –
(name withheld to protect the stupid) I don't see any difference between votin' hilary and votin' republican. If it ain't Bernie, stay the fuck home.
(me) That is not Bernie's position. If you trust him enough to vote for him to the candidate, and to vote for him if he is the candidate (and I do), why would you not trust him enough to follow his lead if he is not the candidate (as I do)?
(name withheld) Because I have my own brain and I don't give any part of a rat's ass about your goddamn political party.
Fuck Hillary. I be less disgusted voting for trump.
At that, given most of the rest of the comments, that was fairly mild. I find it rather discouraging. WRT this, I can hope that someone with a less closed mind may read mine and find it, if not convincing, at least worthy of consideration. I expect we all wish it were over.
Stupid is as stupid does! This guy is STUPID!!!!! He doesn't get it. If a Republican takes the White House (God forbid!), I wonder what he would say then and how loud would he scream? If he'd be less disgusted voting for Drumpf over Clinton, he must be a Republican or a DINO!
You can't argue effectively with a liar, and his claim to bave his own brain is demonstrably false!
Man. Has anyone thought of a contested convention on the Democratic side? I hope it doesn't come to pass. But some bull-headed Bernie voters could get a little crappy if Bernie doesn't take the rest of the primaries. That would do to Dems what the 'pubes are gonna end up with! I hope the conventions go swimmingly for us and the 'pubes have a lot of people whining for HumptyDrumpf!!! But the Dems need to SETTLE DOWN! Just VOTE BLUE, for heaven's sake!!!
What we ALL need to do:
Show Up – Vote Blue …
No Matter Who!
Amen!
Joanne, I do not know if "protected stupid" is too stupidto respond to this, but you mightmention, on that thread, for whomever, that to vote for a Trump puts SCOTUS in his lap (HolyShit!)
It would be wonderful to see the REPUGS go the way of Tricearatops, to see McConnell, and Ryan, etc. become impotent before the world, to see Inhofe float away on the last ice floe to leave the station, with a snow ball between his nether cheeks!
I suspect "protected stupid" is too stupid, and I personally do not want to argue with someone who argues like that. I'd like to stay vertical and out of the mud. BTW, I have since received another reply which was phrased much more politely, and I replied to that thanking him (I think it was a him – I don't know about the first one) for his politeness.
That snowball needs to be rammed in.
Mitch, I so agree with your statement!
TC, if our Democrats continue to act like Republicans, we will be in trouble. As it stands now, either Bernie or Hillary stands an excellent chance of winning the White House. We need to vote, no matter who gets the nomination.
We can only hope that the Great Divide takes down the Republicans! Extinction sounds damn fine to me!
I fully concur with your analysis, TomCat. When they filled the Clown Car with these fine specimens of Republican competence, it was clear the GOP was heading for the cliffs and Drumpf's popularity has put some speed to their demise. The GOP is already split and so are their voters and bringing in a new candidate who nobody voted for or ignoring all primary votes by pushing one-state-winner-only Kasich to the forefront would push the party over the edge.
However, this is only something to rejoice over if Democrats stop playing Republican games and vote for what is good for the country, which is "overwhelmingly blue", independent of whose name is on the ballot paper. For goodness sake, if Democrats don't vote and the next president is a Republican, "backed" by a party that is no more than a zombie after 8 years of internal fighting topped off with a disastrous primary, and an equally dysfunctional SCOTUS, many a politician might just as well ask the 1% to do the job themselves from now on and go home. Then it will be no use to pretend to be anything other than a oligarchy.
Another advantage to the extonction of the GOP is that it makes room for the formation of a democtic socialist perty to the left of today's democrats.
TC's analysis is spot on.
I would love to see the complete annihilation and extinction of the GOP, TP, faux noise and all of their related components, cohorts from ever being seen, heard from again, forever, including the dummkopfs who support them: Racists, Bigots, Misogynists, Xenophobics, Homophobics, Discriminators, American Terrorists.
Yeah, I do know that there might be a few who aren't all that bad, but they a very few bunch of them and they are a rarity…
One item is a certainty: Demos and independents must get out and VOTE! We have already seen many voters in Arizona, New York disenfranchised, scrubbed from voter rolls. Let's not forget what others states have done to "clean-up" their voter registration, rolls as in Texass, North Carolina, Wisconsin and many other GOP run states, Redistricting, gerrymandering, SCROTUM 5, computer failures at the booth, elimination of voting places and so on are not to be taken lightly. The GOP will be pulling every dirty little trick to win the election regardless of who wins their nomination. The GOP wants the White House with control of the House of Representatives and the Senate badly in order to run their nefarious programs of destroying the USA and become a true oligarchy.
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Thanks and Amen to all!! Hugs!!